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secretary of state and hillary clinton says if he goes down the road there will be consequences. >> i will not telegraph any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the a cyber regime has resorted to using chemical weapons-- a shad reading.regime . we are certainly going to take action if that were to occur. >> u.s. officials say he could use shells that-this is 500 more times daily then sign not one drop in killing person in name matter of minutes. i am mary ellen hawkins reporting. >> will follow the latest in syrria will let you know if and when things escalate. will take a quick break we have a live look outside from one of creek. we are looking at the ride on 680. erica is reminding us that we do have showers in store for later today and tomorrow. keep that in mind as you are making plans. we'll be right back. welcome back the time is 4: 40. on your tuesday morning and warning from the center of disease control that is coming flu season to be a particularly bad one. kron 4 stand firm and has more. >> if you have not gotten a flu shot you want to consider
secretary of state and hillary clinton says if he goes down the road there will be consequences. >> i will not telegraph any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the a cyber regime has resorted to using chemical weapons-- a shad reading.regime . we are certainly going to take action if that were to occur. >> u.s. officials say he could use shells that-this is 500 more times daily then sign not one drop in killing person in name matter of minutes. i am...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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this is the home of the clinton presidential library, and maybe the hilary clinton presidential library. >> stephanie: oh, i hope so. i was just talking to somebody about that yesterday. >> caller: when are you coming down here, we have a lot of liberals down here. >> stephanie: yes, i have never been to the clinton library. >> caller: well, come on down. what i wanted to point out, and it has already been said here before, basically -- the republicans are trying to throw grandma and grandpa under the bus because of the $3 trillion war debt. >> stephanie: yeah. >> caller: this is what this is somebody. americans claim to be patriotic, and so many of us wanted to go to war after 9/11 then why don't we have a surtax on the bottom of our income tax reform so we can all pay, but people like mitt romney should be paying more also. >> stephanie: absolutely. >> all of the politicians who supported the iraq war should be paying more. >> stephanie: there you go. and by the way -- >> i am not one of your fans! >> stephanie: sexy liberal hal sparks and spongebob square pants on the big show tomorr
this is the home of the clinton presidential library, and maybe the hilary clinton presidential library. >> stephanie: oh, i hope so. i was just talking to somebody about that yesterday. >> caller: when are you coming down here, we have a lot of liberals down here. >> stephanie: yes, i have never been to the clinton library. >> caller: well, come on down. what i wanted to point out, and it has already been said here before, basically -- the republicans are trying to...
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
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that is what bill clinton second term was about. he could keep him from getting to that point of bringing everything to gavel. >> this came from his best friend who runs a parking company. he said obama has been ridiculed in his brain. he is constantly working the room excuse to get the right conversation to move them forward. he's always thinking a few steps ahead. if i did eight incident be they would to see -- if i do a and they do b, it would be c. he was in this particular kind of business. he wanted to be in a longer- term business. he did not make enough concessions to the day-by-day noise of washington. >> i call this his pregame aptitude. he plays the game before the players take the field. the trick is when you get to be president. it can create a kind of reticence, a step back quality that you missed. all those variables change. >> i think he is learning. i altered his landscape. as i do that, i am ahead of the pack. >> you're talking about striving for greatness. he is going to need to strive for greatness and reorganize
that is what bill clinton second term was about. he could keep him from getting to that point of bringing everything to gavel. >> this came from his best friend who runs a parking company. he said obama has been ridiculed in his brain. he is constantly working the room excuse to get the right conversation to move them forward. he's always thinking a few steps ahead. if i did eight incident be they would to see -- if i do a and they do b, it would be c. he was in this particular kind of...
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melissa: secretary of state hillary clinton responding to reports syria's regime is moving its stockpiles of chemical weapons and there is new word that syria is combining chemicals to make deadly sarin gas. would its use be enough to push unraveling middle east over the edge? for insight we turn tt britte gabriel, terrorism expert and president of act for america. welcome to the show. >> thank you, melissa. melissa: this is certainly frightening news and frightening reports. from what you've seen do you think this is what syria is doing? >> syria is moving chemical weapons in a way they have not done before. they usually move these things around but the activities of the last 48 hours show they are up to something and the concern here is that bashar assad says if he goes down he will take the whole middle east down with him and i believe his last resort will be using chemical weans in, if in fact he is losing. the rebels in the last 48 hours gained really good ground against the assad regime and there were reports that came out of syria yesterday, two different reports said, some said he
melissa: secretary of state hillary clinton responding to reports syria's regime is moving its stockpiles of chemical weapons and there is new word that syria is combining chemicals to make deadly sarin gas. would its use be enough to push unraveling middle east over the edge? for insight we turn tt britte gabriel, terrorism expert and president of act for america. welcome to the show. >> thank you, melissa. melissa: this is certainly frightening news and frightening reports. from what...
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>> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3% negative growth for two quarters and we'll go back with a slightly less than 2% growth rate for the entire. we're not going to get out of this without pain. anybody when thinks we'll get through the deficit problem without having to do some sacrificing is wrong. what this does in my view as a democrat is it distributes the burden of the pain fairly, that is, we go back to the clinton tax rates for everybody, not just for rich folks. and we had a good economy under bill clinton. we go back -- we get -- cuts in defense spending which we know is higher than it
>> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3%...
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not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the possibility for the average older person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now have that. i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event, for the first time, and i think we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990 we had very heavily armed, very bad people threatening our very existence as a society. even though we may have exaggerated that a little bit at the end. we don't have that anymore. we have murderous thugs and terrorists but they're not the nazis or communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an abilit
not very long ago that was a wedge issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in some other areas. clearly be done and we have the deniers of global warming, but we're reducing the amount of oil that we import. there is progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been, i think, retrogression in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century, with social security and medicare. before those two, we did not have the...
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former chief of staff of bill clinton. john has to leave us early. we have the director of the urban institute's tax policy center. we'll see if you two disagree on anything. we have will marshal from the progressive policy institute. we have senator bob packwood from oregon, former chairman of the senate finance committee, part of the 1986 negotiations. and the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have an hour to an hour and a half. if you hear something you want to weigh in on, don't wait for me. we're talking now about the other very small issue in this issue and that is tax policy and how best to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal path. the question of revenue, how much, where to get it, the options on the table and would like your thoughts. as you heard from chairman bachus. they need ideas to bridge this gap because we appear to be at a stale mate. i turn it over to john to get your thoughts knowing he has to leave and the center for american progre
former chief of staff of bill clinton. john has to leave us early. we have the director of the urban institute's tax policy center. we'll see if you two disagree on anything. we have will marshal from the progressive policy institute. we have senator bob packwood from oregon, former chairman of the senate finance committee, part of the 1986 negotiations. and the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have...
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i grew up under bill clinton who always said the best politics is good governing and i think we need to see more focus on solving problems and getting things done in washington than playing politics. i think to recognize there's been real progress made, right the border is safer today, the immigration system is better, the two parties worked together to do that over the last few years. there are still some meaningful things that need to get done. the d.r.e.a.m. act, we have to fix the low-end and high-end visa system. the mexicans are going to do a whole boar border system. i think there will be a lot of room to work together next year to get something meaningful done. if the republicans are earnest and play it straight i think they'll get a lot of credit for working with the democrats to fix the broken immigration system and making it better. jon: getting something meaningful done, it seems like a longtime since that's happened in washington. we'll look forward to it. simon rosenberg. kate obenshane thank you much. jenna: the nato alliance warning the assad regime in syria against u
i grew up under bill clinton who always said the best politics is good governing and i think we need to see more focus on solving problems and getting things done in washington than playing politics. i think to recognize there's been real progress made, right the border is safer today, the immigration system is better, the two parties worked together to do that over the last few years. there are still some meaningful things that need to get done. the d.r.e.a.m. act, we have to fix the low-end...
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bush or president bill clinton, or president george w. bush or president barack obama, the truth is, at the time they were elected president, we as a nation, overall, got the president we deserved at that time. now, one of the most impressive speeches i've ever heard was given by senator barack obama at the democratic convention, and i love the way he talked about america coming back as one america. not a red america or blue america but america. just one country. and it's one of the things that i drew great hope from on 9/12 delsh 2001 as people of the country -- on 9/12/2001 as people of the country gathered around, as we did in our east texas town, and we all held hands and we sang hymns and patriotic songs and you look -- i look around the circle and was deeply moved because i knew that day there were no hyphenated americans. there were just americans. and we were together. and everybody standing there in that square holding hands, we shared the love for our country. we wanted to see it strong. we wanted to see it recover from that dev
bush or president bill clinton, or president george w. bush or president barack obama, the truth is, at the time they were elected president, we as a nation, overall, got the president we deserved at that time. now, one of the most impressive speeches i've ever heard was given by senator barack obama at the democratic convention, and i love the way he talked about america coming back as one america. not a red america or blue america but america. just one country. and it's one of the things that...
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you go back and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and had and to send a message to the world, just as the president said, if you mess with the united states there are serious and potentially deadly consequences for doing so. bill: i just want to add this. about a month ago the deputy interior minister said the investigation was going well. about three weeks ago the ministry spokesman said the results would come soon. i put those in quotes because we are still waiting on that. steven hayes, thank you out of washington. martha: remember the homeless man whose picture went viral on the internet when a new york city po
you go back and look at bill clinton after the attacks on the u.s. embassies in africa on august 7th of 1998, it took a little more than two weeks for bill clinton to respond force knee by dropping bombs on the farm suit alplant in khartoum. i had other examples of rather quick, which isn't to say precipitous, rather quick responses in part to send aess message. it's very important for the families and everybody here in the united states to understand that justice has in fact been pursued and...
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going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking about, and negotiations could continue. doing what i'm talking about does not violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. why not make sure we do not have some last-minute failure at the end of december. guest: what gives you confidence that democrats would agree later on? guest: this is where i disagree with some of my colleagues. they seem to think the american people are leveraged, and this is the democrats leverage. our leverage is in the spending and entitlement issues. the president and his negotiators are smart and able people. they know
going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking...
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. >>> and a prominent new york city politician asked the secretary hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate. >> exactly. >> new york senate years ago. >> you would imagine hillary clinton is one of the superstars in politics, and she has certain star power. you would think if she comes back into politics at this point -- they say she is not -- she would want a national office compared to a big, big job like mayor of new york city. if she gets in the game, she's going for the top again. the white house, not here in new york. >> what is mayor bloomberg going to do, steps down december 31st of 2013. >> count his money, i guess. >>> speaking of money, mitt romney is making a career move of sorts. he's rejoining the board of di
. >>> and a prominent new york city politician asked the secretary hillary clinton as she prepares to step down. michael bloomberg called clinton to encourage her to enter the 2013 race for new york mayor when his term end. "the new york times" made it clear that she had no interest in the job. if she, however, decides to change her mind, she has one hurdle she has to overcome. she has to be a resident of the city. she bought a home when sheep deep sided to run for senate....
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mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he posted it on his facebook. and she's in fact in that letter encouraging him to keep on fighting in the political website, saying that is new for clinton. do you think she's building support for a presidential campaign? >> i don't think she's building support to go on a nice long vacation. >> jennifer: i totally agree. >> which is probably what she's going to do, take a break while her team puts everything together. it's smart politics congratulating, and offering condolences to anyone who lost. i think it's pretty normal. i think it's usual that a candidate would put it up for the world to see but i think it's a smart t
mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he...